{"id":271,"date":"2021-09-04T17:18:20","date_gmt":"2021-09-05T00:18:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/?p=271"},"modified":"2023-12-20T10:06:56","modified_gmt":"2023-12-20T18:06:56","slug":"elec-trak-dc-dc-converters","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/2021\/09\/04\/elec-trak-dc-dc-converters\/","title":{"rendered":"Elec-Trak DC-DC converters."},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>I love my Elec-Trak lawn tractor. It&#8217;s about 50 years old though, and the lead acid batteries are not very cost effective anymore so I upgraded them to Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries and also added an inverter to run my shop if the power goes out. <br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"494\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4235-1024x494.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-280\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4235-1024x494.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4235-300x145.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4235-768x370.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4235-1536x740.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4235.jpg 1801w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">E15 with Lithium batteries and Magnum MS-4448PAE inverter<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>If you also have upgraded to lithium, you&#8217;ve surely noticed that there is an issue with driving the 12V lights and the 18V lift motor; lithium packs can&#8217;t handle the imbalance of mid pack power taps. DC-DC converters are the answer, here is how I used inexpensive units from Amazon on my E15.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I used a 10Amp unit for the lights:: <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3BKPeEi\">https:\/\/amzn.to\/3BKPeEi<\/a><br>I modified this 20 Amp one to put out 18V for Lift motor: <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/2WN8cLD\">https:\/\/amzn.to\/2WN8cLD<\/a><br>using a 5.1k 0603 resistor like the ones in this kit: <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3BLdbLl\">https:\/\/amzn.to\/3BLdbLl<\/a><br>(any 5.1K ohm resistor should work if you can manage to fit it in there with fancy fingerwork)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In retrospect it seems to me you could use two 20 Amp units for both applications for a slightly higher cost. I did the lights first and then ordered the Lift DC-DC so I didn&#8217;t think of this. I probably would do this next time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4230-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-273\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4230-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4230-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4230-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4230-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4230-2048x1536.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">E15DC-DC converters installed in Electrak E15 <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Lights<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>The 12V unit is pretty simple. The Control and Light fuses are connected to 36V Negative, and so these fuses are a good place to connect the DC-DC negative wires. For the 12V light DC-DC I connected negative (black) on the bottom of the light fuse in order to fuse it. The high voltage input (Red) I connected to the bottom (unfused) side of the Lift fuse. The 12V output (Yellow) I connected to wire #12 that used to connect to the battery pack. Mount the DC-DC with a couple small self drilling screws and the lights are all set! <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Lift Power<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>I was not able to find an inexpensive 18V output DC-DC so the Lift DC-DC requires modifications in order to get it to put out 18V instead of 12V. This is a little tricky as you&#8217;ll need to open it up and add a 5.1K resistor to the network that sets the output voltage. Fortunately there is an unused pad at R10 for a surface mount resistor. Soldering in a 5.1 K resistor on the empty pad labeled R10 raises the output voltage to about 18.5V. Mine had 25V rated output capacitors so I expect it won&#8217;t mind the higher output voltage. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4206-768x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-277\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4206-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4206-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4206-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4206-1536x2048.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4206-scaled.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Top left showing location of pad R10 for the 5.1K resistor<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4208-768x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-279\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4208-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4208-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4208-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4208-1536x2048.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4208-scaled.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">My scribbled schematic of the voltage regulator section<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Once the Lift DC-DC was modified I connected the HV input (Red) to the top side of the lift fuse to keep it fused (remove wire #17 from the fuse for later use.) The thicker negative wire (Blue) I combined with wire #51 that used to tap the battery and then connected both wires to the top of the light fuse for a unfused B- connection. Both negative wires (Blue and Black) are connected inside the DC-DC, so I capped the thinner black wire from the DC-DC since it&#8217;s unnecessary. The modified now 18V output of the DC-DC (Yellow) I connected to the wire that I removed from the top of the lift fuse, wire #17. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4237-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-274\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4237-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4237-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4237-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4237-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4237-2048x1536.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">GE E15 wiring diagram<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>This is the wiring diagram that I used for this E15. I think they are also available somewhere on the web. I&#8217;m guessing you already have one if you&#8217;ve done a lithium conversion. If yours looks different than mine, beware that the required wiring connections may be different.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I switched the main power switch back on and everything (aside from the intermittent corroded light fuse) is working well and bringing smiles. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-video\"><video controls src=\"https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4232.m4v\"><\/video><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>This site contains paid links, by buying through these links I may receive a commission for the sale. This has no effect on the price for you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I love my Elec-Trak lawn tractor. It&#8217;s about 50 years old though, and the lead acid batteries are not very cost effective anymore so I upgraded them to Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries and also added an inverter to run my shop if the power goes out. If you also have upgraded to lithium, you&#8217;ve surely&hellip;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/2021\/09\/04\/elec-trak-dc-dc-converters\/\" rel=\"bookmark\">Read More &raquo;<span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Elec-Trak DC-DC converters.<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":272,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[7,1],"tags":[5,4,3,6],"class_list":["post-271","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-hacks-fixes-and-upgrades","category-uncategorized","tag-e-15","tag-elec-trak","tag-ge","tag-lithium-conversion"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_4236-scaled.jpg","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paSKPd-4n","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/271","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=271"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/271\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":647,"href":"https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/271\/revisions\/647"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/272"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=271"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=271"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cafeelectric.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=271"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}